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PostSubject: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:36 pm

This could be a sticky thread where we could share experience and knowledge about whether certain genuses, species and strains are self fertile or they need a partner, a second plant in order to produce seeds... and how successful the pollinations tend to be...

So, for starters, I would like to ask if Strombocactus [esperanza, red flower, grafted] , Mammillaria luethyi, and Notocactus genus [for starters] are self-fertile.

If strombocactus is not self-fertile with witch genuses could I experiment to hybridise, any ideas? Like with some Turbinicarpus {I got lophophoroides with a bud] . Maybe Stenocactus too???
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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:29 pm

i am pretty sure that notocactus (parodia) is not self fertile!
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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:21 pm

There is a list floating around on the web that has all this info. I haven't seen it for a while, but it must be out there somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:55 pm

Yup Lachy is right and this should answer most questions. It is pretty accurate as far as I can tell. It is mostly in French but you get the idea, the first column has an S or an F.

S =Sterile

F = Fertile


http://lapsyserre.free.fr/psy_liste/SPSY2K4.doc

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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:39 pm

Ahh, you legend! That's the one!
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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:55 am

No probs mate.

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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:24 am

Thanks a lot!!
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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:55 pm

Here is a short list from the link with some of the more popular species>


As above an "s" after the name = Self Sterile
an "f" = Self Fertile

S/F = It could be "possible" either way, I think.

ARIOCARPUS
agavoides [DH 1090/90] s
agavoides > Tula/TAMPS/Mexique [GK 1230/90] s
fissuratus [SW 9004/95] s
furfuraceus [GK 41/91] s
kotschoubeyanus [DH] s
kotschoubeyanus ssp. sladkovskyi > Rio Verde/SLP/Mexique [GK 1683/97] s
kotschoubeyanus v. albiflorus [DH/92] s
kotschoubeyanus v. albiflorus [NR/94] s
kotschoubeyanus v. albiflorus [DH 1007/96] s
kotschoubeyanus v. albiflorus SB 1827 [MG 31.2/96] s
kotschoubeyanus v. elephantidens s
kotschoubeyanus v. macdowellii [SW 9008/91] s
retusus ssp. pectinatus "HO 732" > Rio Verde/SLP/Mexique [GK 48/96] s
scaphirostris [DH] s
trigonus [GK 45/90] s

ASTROPHYTUM
asterias s
asterias > Gonzales/TAMPS/Mexique [GK 85/95] s
asterias > Gonzales/TAMPS/Mexique [GK 85/96] s
asterias Super Kabuto [DH 993/96] s
asterias v. nudum [GK 1895/97] s
capricorne cv. Crassispinoides [DH 990/97] s
capricorne v. minor [GK 71/90] s
coahuilense SB 1474 [MG 56.3/97] s
myriostigma [U 607/93 pro parte] s
myriostigma [NR/89] s
myriostigma SB 262 [MG 58/98] s
myriostigma cv.Onzuka [DH 995/97] s
myriostigma petites fleurs [JPP/96] s/f
myriostigma v. columnare [DH 413/98] s
myriostigma v. columnare [DH 420/97] s
myriostigma v. quadricostatum [U 607/93 pro parte] s
myriostigma v. quadricostatum [DH 419/97] s
myriostigma v. strongylogonum SB 126 [MG 63/95] s
myriostigma v. tricostatum n.n. [DH] s
tulense [JPP/97] s

AZTEKIUM
ritteri [U/94] f

CINTIA
knizei s
knizei KK 1768 [ELK/99] s

COPIAPOA
barquitensis [DH 900/98] s
barquitensis s
barquitensis FR 654 [MG 83/97] s/f
esmeraldana [DH 994/90] s
esmeraldana UN 672A [MG 85.9/98] s
grandiflora [DH 1123/97] f
humilis FK 35/77 [MG 85.1/98] s
humilis FR 464 [MG 85.2/98] s
humilis AdB 2.44 > Paposo/Chili [GPS/94] f
hypogaea "peau de lezard" [DH/99] f/s
hypogaea "peau de lezard" Buining/Diers [WK/97] s
hypogaea longs mammelons, sans aiguillons [DH/00] f/s
laui L 891 > Esmeralda/Chili [GC/97 (OR)] f
laui peu laineux [VC/92] f
laui très laineux [ELK/93] f
longispina [AI 1020/91] s
maritima KK 1709 s
mollicula [DH 899/95] f
montana [GK 255/90] s
montana FR 522 [GK 255/96] s
olivana L 816 [SS 40/97] s
pendicolor [RF/90] s
sp. > El Cobre/Chili [DH] s
tenuissima [GK 256/91] s
tocopillana issu de graines de Walter Jung [BBu/00] f
vallenarensis [DH 1002/90] s

EPITHELANTHA
bokei SB 416 [MG 362/98] s
chihuahuensis [GK 1977/97] s
dickisoniae [GK 1974/95] s
fungifera [JLo/96] f
fungifera "texana" [VC/92] f
greggii SB 358 [MG 366/97] s
micromeris L 737 [U 4962/98] f
micromeris L 749a [U 4974/97] f
micromeris SB 1327 [MG 359.2/97] f
micromeris SB 256 [MG 358/97] f
micromeris SB 56 [MG 354/97] f
micromeris AdB 3.9.3 > Oliver Lee/NM/USA [GPS/94] f
micromeris HO 24 > Rayones/NL/Mexique [HO/96] f
micromeris (ex bokei) [GK 444/91] f
micromeris (ex. rufispina) [GK 447/97] f
micromeris (neomexicana) [GK 446/95] f
pachyrhiza [DH 1078/91] s
pachyrhiza v. elongata [SW 4148/96] s
polycephala [GK 449/96] s
unguispina [GK 1978/97] s

ECHINOPSIS
201 ancistrophora [AI 107/88] s
203 ancistrophora MN 63 [SS 121/97] s
204 ancistrophora MN 201 tube floral court [SS 122/97] s
205 ancistrophora v. hamatispina JL 28 [SS 124/97] s
2013 eyriesii KK 1474 [MG 346.62/99] s
206 kermesina [GK 408/89] s
obrepanda [RI/97] s
obrepanda [GK 415/89] s
obrepanda v. calliantholilacina FR 776 [MG 349.31/98] s
obrepanda v. millaresi [DH 66/98] s
polyancistra [GK 419/89] s
polyancistra "N16" x F1 back crossing [GK 419/89 pro parte] s
sp. fleurs rose [DH 903/90 pro parte] s
subdenudata L 943 [MG 351.1/99] s

GYMNOCALYCIUM sous-genre Gymnocalycium
alboareolatum P 220 [GK 3433/95] s
alboareolatum (kieslingii v. castaneum) P 220 [MG 469.4/95] f
alboareolatum (kieslingii) ZJ 111 [MG 469.38/97] f
amerhauseri STO 229 [ELK/97] s
andreae MN 80 [SS 225/97] s/ms
andreae v. albiflorum [MG 454.02/95] s
andreae v. grandiflorum [GK 2023/90] s
baldianum [SW 6242/95] s
baldianum P 127 [SS 227/97] s
berchtii LB 320 [LB/98] f/fs
bruchii s/ms
bruchii v. brigittae P 214 [SS 234/97] fs/ms
bruchii v. enorme [JL/96] s/ms
calochlorum [U 504/92] s
calochlorum JL 109 [JL/97] s
calochlorum P 109b [SS 235/97] s
chubutense [DH 113/92] s
doppianum [MG 464.03/96] s
erinaceum [GK 4050/93] s
gibbosum [GK 601/89] f/ms
guanchinense [U 311/92] s
hossei JL 12 [JL/96] s
leptanthum [SW 6260/95] s
neuhuberi GN 89-77-357 aiguillons jaunes [ELK/97] s
neuhuberi GN 89-356 aiguillons noirs [ELK/97] s
neuhuberi (doute) VS 8 [MG 476.423/98] s
odoratum [U 2537/92] s
parvulum [DH 203/90] s
platense (leptanthum) [MG 481/97] s
platense v. ventanicola [SS 345/98] s
schatzlianum P 93 [MG 486.5/95] s
schroederianum v. boessii [U 4203/91] s
sigelianum [MG 488.9/93] f/ms
sp. B 149 [GK 4039/92] s
striglianum [MG 490.26/93] s
sutterianum [CF 9124/90] s
taningaense P 212 [GK 4057/97] s
uebelmaniannum [GK 4032/93] s


OBREGONIA
denegrii s

LOPHOPHORA
630 caespitosa f
631 decipiens [DH 1078/93] s
2186 diffusa s
2187 diffusa [U 2979/92] s
2189 fricii > San Pedro/COA/Mexique [GK 8833/97] s
632 texensis [GK 865/93] f
627 viridescens (diffusa v. koehresii) [GK 2809/96] s

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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:52 am

Does anyone know if Lemaireocereus/Stenocereus thurberi & marginatus are self fertile?
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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:04 pm

If strombocactus is not self-fertile with witch genuses could I experiment to hybridise, any ideas? Like with some Turbinicarpus {I got lophophoroides with a bud] Maybe Stenocactus too???
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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:20 am

with Strombocactus, one could experiment with Lophophora, Leuchtenbergia, Obregonia... maybe. Turbinicarpus too maybe. doesn't hurt to experiment.
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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:36 pm

I think pediocactus knowltonii is self fertile. I only have one grafted specimen and it has produced two fruits. Unless there's another one near by. (highly unlikely)

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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:49 pm

There is a well known hybrid in relation to Strombocactus.

Father: Turbinicarpus alonsoi
Mother: Strombocactus disciformis

I do not have the plant but have seen the photo.
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PostSubject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile???   Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:43 pm

That lists awesome HN, cheers!
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