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PostSubject: Degrafting   Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:21 pm

I degraft cactus around winter solstice and keep in dry condition until warming up in Sptember.
It is not cactus growing season currently but I can do quite many preparation for coming spring.
The attached photo is degrafted cactus with a short stock.

1. Discocactus heptacanthus v griseus
Sowed seeds on 31/08/2006, grafted very young seedlings
Current diameter is around 12 cm.


2. Thelocactus heterochromus f longispinus
Sowed seeds on 31/08/2001, grafted very young seedlings
Current diameter is around 15 cm
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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:07 pm

Interesting... so, does the shortened stock develop roots, or does it shrivel and the scion produce roots of its own?
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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:42 am

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Plants will be upside down after dried stock completely. Plants will be sit on empty black plastic pots.
Roots (aerial roots) will come out from the short stock before September.
The short stock will be buried in potting mix. Roots will never be developped from plants (scions)
You have to remove all areole on the short stock to prevent coming up pups from the stock.
This method is not actual degrafting. The character of grafted plant will be remained.

If you remained a short stock of pereskiopsis or a short vascular bandle of Hylocereus, roots come out from the short stock or the short vascular bandle but roots come out scion later and the stock will die eventually.

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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:02 pm

DEAR Hanazono
why you put them upsidedown? why did you cut the stock?
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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:57 am

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I use 3 way of degraftings to meet the purpose.
1. Normal degrafting (removing grafting stock completely)
2. Degrafting with a short vascular bundles of grafting stock (Hylocereus stock)
3. Degrafting with a short grafting stock (as shown attached photo)

In case of No. 2, roots come out from the vascular bundles initially but roots come out from the scion later.
Some Ariocarpus eg fissuratus is difficult to stop liquid from cutting face and rotting out during rooting.
The way of No. 2 is usefull method for the situation.

In case of No. 3, root come out from the short stock only, never come out from the scion.
You can keep grafted characters, strong spines and many flowers etc in this case.

The photo is showing case No. 3, drying process of cutting faces on grafting stocks and so they are upsidedown.
When cutting faces were dried completely, plants are turned over, stocks are in empty black plastic pots.
I cut stocks in autumn and keep until spring. Air-roots come out from short stocks in empty black plastic pots.

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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:15 pm



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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Tue May 08, 2012 7:54 am

another awesome thread on degrafting, thanks Hanazono

so you use method #2 only for Hylocerei? could it work with Sselinicereus too?
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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Tue May 08, 2012 7:50 pm

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Yes I just use Hylocereus for the method #2 but I think this method would work any other stocks.

I have been trying pereskiopsis stocks for the method #2.


I have never used Selenicereus as a grfting stock yet.

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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Thu May 17, 2012 9:50 am

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I have never used Selenicereus as a grfting stock yet.

well maybe you should, its awesome - and I am saying this with all the respect to the vast knowledge you seem to have.

selini is good for:

grafting in unrooted stock
fast mass stock propagation
virtually spineless stock
fast growth especially at the begining
both seedlings and bigger pups are compatible

selinis disadvantages:

supposedly less water tolerant than hylo
they say it doesn't last forever, but nor does hylocereus.

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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:32 pm

Thanks so much Hanazono for sharing his great experiances. One of the best post. Unfortunately Webshot removed all of the pictures of this post. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Degrafting   Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:18 pm

An absolute wealth of knowledge hanazono. BTW my 2011 grafting competition plants never flowered... The stock died first and degrafting never took root.
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